A teacher named Renee, seeking additional
information for her class, asked me several questions in regard to my personal experiences
and feelings about Vietnam. One of the questions Renee asked was if I thought we
would have won the war if it were not for the war demonstrators. My response was as
follows.
"
Yes, I believe we
would have had a victory in South Vietnam if it were not for the peace demonstrations and
the yellow journalism of the press
.
I have very strong feelings about the anti-war
demonstrators. I felt there actions gave the enemy hope and by doing so they were guilty
of treason !!! You may want to look at the timing of the demonstrations. The war started
in 1964 for all practical purposes. Enrollment to colleges and Universities grew
enormously. As students start to flunk out or graduate the demonstrations became larger.
The students were fearful that they or their loved ones may have to go and fight in the
war.
Here is an example how our President felt about the
war.... "
To give an illustration of how a prominent current
leader avoided the draft in favor of college, I searched the Internet for Bill Clinton's
ROTC letter and his involvement in the Vietnam War demonstrations in England. The
following is what I found on the internet.
Allow me say something up front. My opinion is
that Bill Clinton's actions toward the draft was not a separate case, but his actions, and
those of his family and friends using influence were reflected throughout the United
States by thousands of other American families. The vast majority of male students
attending colleges and universities were very concerned by and fearful of the draft.
Most did not go to Bill Clinton's extremes.
The outline on Bill Clinton and the Draft was posted
on several sites on the internet with only one site at
http://www.unclesam.net/cny/mil/bc-lettr.htm
(This link is now down) giving credit for the outline to the Free Republic web site at http://www.freerepublic.com .
August 19, 1964
- Clinton registers for the draft
--[Washington Post Sep 13 92]
September 1964 -
Clinton, age 18, enters Georgetown University
--[The Comeback Kid, CF Allen and J Portis, p. 20]
November 17, 1964-
Clinton is classified 2-S (student deferment). This will shield him from the draft
throughout his undergraduate years.
---[Wash Post Sep 13 92]
February 16, 1968 - "The Johnson administration unexpectedly abolished graduate
deferments."
--[Wash Post Sep 13 92]
March 20, 1968 -
Clinton, age 21, is classified 1-A, eligible for induction, as he nears graduation from
Georgetown.
--[Wash Post Sep 13 92]
Comment: Bill Clinton was the only man of his
prime draft age classified1-A by that draft board in 1968 whose pre-induction physical
examination was put off for 10.5 months. This delay was more than twice as long as anyone
else and more than five times longer than most area men of comparable eligibility.
--[Los Angeles Times Sep 02 92]
Summer 1968 -
Political and family influence keeps Clinton out of the draft. Robert Corrado -- the only
surviving Hot Springs draft board member from that period -- concluded that Clinton's
draft statement (the long delays) was the result of "some form of preferential
treatment." According to the Times, "Corrado recalled that the chairman of the
three-man draft panel ... once held back Clinton's file with the explanation that 'we've
got to give him time to go to Oxford,' where the semester began in the fall of 1968.
Corrado also complained that he was called by an
aide to then Senator J. William Fulbright urging him and his fellow board members to 'give
every consideration' to keep Clinton out of the draft so he could attend Oxford.
Throughout the remainder of 1968, Corrado said,
Clinton's draft file was routinely held back from consideration by the full board.
Consequently, although he was classified 1-A on March 20, 1968, he was not called for his
physical exam until Feb 3, 1969, while he was at Oxford.
Clinton's Uncle Raymond Clinton personally lobbied
Senator Fulbright, William S. Armstrong, the chairman of the three-man Hot Springs draft
board, and Lt. Comdr. Trice Ellis, Jr., commanding officer of the local Navy reserve unit,
to obtain a slot for Clinton in the Naval Reserve.
Clinton secured a "standard enlisted man's
billet, not an officer's slot which would have required Clinton to serve two years on
active duty beginning within 12 months of his acceptance." This Navy Reserve assignment was "created especially for the Bill
Clinton at a time in 1968 when no existing reserve slots were open in his hometown
unit."
According to the LA Times, "after about two
weeks waiting for Bill Clinton to arrive for his preliminary interview and physical exam,
Ellis said he called (Clinton's uncle) Raymond to inquire - 'What happened to that boy?'
According to Ellis, Clinton's uncle replied - 'Don't worry about it. He won't be coming
down. "It's all been taken
care of.' "
--[LA Times Sep 02 92]
Fall 1968 - Because of the local draft board's continuing postponement of his
pre-induction physical, Clinton is able to enroll at Oxford Univ.
--[Wash Post Sep 13 92]
February 2, 1969 - While at Oxford, Clinton
finally takes and passes a military physical examination.
--[Washington Times Sep 18 92]
April 1969 - Clinton receives induction notice from the Hot Springs AR draft board.
Clinton however claims that the draft board told him to ignore the notice because it
arrived after the deadline for induction.
--[Wash Post Sep 13 92]
June-July 1969 - Clinton receives a second induction notice with a July 28 induction date
and returns home.
--[Wash Times Sep 18 92]
July 11, 1969 -
Clinton's friend at Oxford, Cliff Jackson, writes, "Clinton
is feverishly trying to find a way to avoid entering the Army as a drafted private. I have
had several of my friends in influential positions trying to pull strings on Bill's
behalf."
-- [LA Times Sep 26 92]
Clinton benefited from yet another lobbying campaign
in order to evade this induction notice. "Democratic presidential candidate Bill
Clinton, who has said he did not pull strings to avoid the Vietnam-era draft, was able to
get his Army induction notice canceled in the summer of 1969 after a lobbying effort
directed at the Republican head of the state draft agency." Arrangements were made
for Clinton to meet with Col. Williard A. Hawkins who "was the only person in
Arkansas with authority to rescind a draft notice. ... The apparently successful appeal to
Hawkins was planned while Clinton was finishing his first year as a Rhodes scholar in
England. Clinton's former friend and Oxford classmate, Cliff Jackson -- now an avowed
political critic of the candidate -- said it was pursued immediately upon Clinton's return
to AR in early July 1969 to beat a July 28 deadline for induction."
-- [LA Times Sep 26 92]
Comment: Jackson's statement is contrary to
Clinton's repeated assertions that he received no special treatment in avoiding military
service. "(I) never received any unusual or favorable treatment." [LA Times Sep
02 92]
August 7, 1969 - Clinton is reclassified 1-D after he arranges to enter the ROTC program
at the University of Arkansas.
--[Wash Post Sep 13 92]
According to Cliff Jackson, Clinton's Oxford
classmate, Clinton used the ROTC program to "kill the
draft notice, to avoid reporting on the July 28 induction
date, which had already been postponed. And he did that by promising to serve his country
in the ROTC, number one, to enroll in the law school that fall ... and he never
enrolled."
--[Wash Times Sep 17 92]
Comment - Clinton's admission into the ROTC program again runs contrary to his
repeated statements that he received no special treatment in order to evade military
service. Col. Eugene Holmes, commander of the University of Arkansas ROTC program, said
Clinton was admitted after pressure from the Hot Springs draft board and the office of
Senator J. William Fulbright (D-AR).
Again, Clinton was receiving preferential treatment.
In addition, records from the
Army reveal that Clinton was not legally eligible for the
ROTC program at that time.
Army regulations required recruits to be enrolled at
the university and attending classes full-time before being admitted to an ROTC program.
Fall 1969 - Clinton returns to Oxford for a second year. Clinton was supposed to be
at the Arkansas Law School. However, according to Cliff Jackson, "Sen. Fulbright's
office and Bill himself continued to exert tremendous pressure on poor Col. Holmes to get
him [Clinton] to go back to Oxford."
--[Wash Post Sep 13 92]
September 14, 1969 - The Arkansas Gazette, published in Little
Rock, headlined a draft suspension was reportedly planned by the President.
Comment - The article, citing a source, said
Selective Service reforms when implemented, would only permit the conscription of
19-year-old men. In addition, the source said "the Army
would send to Vietnam only enlistees, professional soldiers, and those draftees who
volunteered to go." The source contended that these reforms, combined with troop
withdrawals, "would put pressure on the Congress to enact draft legislation already
proposed by the President ... and set up a lottery to
conscript only 19-year-old men," the Gazette reported.
From his letter to Col. Holmes, Bill Clinton said "....Finally,
on Sept. 12 I stayed up all night writing a letter to the chairman of my draft
board,......I never mailed the letter, but I did carry it on me every day until I got on
the plane to return to England.". It is very probable that Bill Clinton
was in the United States and well aware of the above proposal on Sep 14, 1969. Bill
Clinton was 23 years old.
September 19, 1969 - "President Nixon, facing turmoil on
college campuses, suspended draft calls for November and December of 1969 and said the
October call would be spread out over three months."
--[Wash Post Sep 13 92]
The President also indicated that if the Congress
did not act to establish a lottery system, he would remove by executive order the
vulnerability to the draft of all men age 20 to 26.
Comment - Again, Clinton was 23 years old.
September-October 1969 - "At some point, Clinton decided to
make himself eligible for the draft and said in February 1992 his stepfather had acted in
his behalf to accomplish this. Newsweek, attributing the information to campaign
officials, said this all happened in Oct 1969. Clinton spokesperson Betsey Wright
... said she believed it took place in September. The difference is potentially
significant. ... If Clinton did not act to give up his deferment until October, he could
have known he faced no liability from the draft until the following summer, that he could
take his chances with the lottery and find alternative service if he got a low
number."
--[Wash Post Sep 13 92]
October 1, 1969 - "Nixon announced that anyone in graduate school could complete the
full year."
--[Wash Post Sep 13 92]
Comment - Clinton is now safe from the draft through
June 1970.
October 1969 - President Nixon suspends call-up of additional draftees until a draft
lottery is held in December.
October 15, 1969
- Clinton organized and led anti-war demonstrations in
London.
-- [Wash Times Sep 18 92]
Comment - According to McSorley, Clinton's
demonstrations "had the support of British peace organizations" such as the
British Peace Council, an arm of the KGB-backed World Peace
Council.
October 30, 1969
- Clinton is reclassified 1-A, eligible for induction.
--[Wash Times Sep 28 92]
Comment - "Clinton said he put himself into the draft by contacting his draft
board in September or October and asking to be reclassified 1-A. ... It is not clear,
however, whether that occurred at Clinton's urging or whether his failure to enroll at
University of Arkansas automatically cancelled his 1-D deferment."
Clinton has never produced any evidence to
substantiate his claim that he initiated his reclassification.
November 16, 1969
- Clinton organized and led anti-war demonstrations in
London.
December 1, 1969
- Clinton draws #311 in the first draft lottery.
--[Wash Times Sep 18 92]
Comment - Clinton was virtually assured that he
would not be drafted because of the high lottery number.
December 3, 1969
- While still in England, Clinton writes to Lt. Col. Eugene Holmes, , commander of the
University of Arkansas ROTC Program and states, "From my work I came to believe that
the draft system is illegitimate ... I decided to accept the draft in spite of my beliefs
for one reason - to maintain my political viability."
Clinton's ROTC Letter
As Entered in Congressional Record
(Page: H5550) 7/30/93
Dear Col. Holmes,
I am sorry to be so long in writing. I know I
promised to let you hear from me at least once a month, and from now on you will, but I
have to have some time to think about this first letter. Almost daily since my return to
England I have thought about writing,about what I want to and ought to say.
First, I want to thank you, not only for saving me
from the draft, but for being so kind to me last summer, when I was as low as I have ever
been. One thing that made the bond we struck in good faith somewhat palatable to me was my
high regard for you personally. In retrospect, it seems that the admiration might not have
been mutual had you known a little more about me, about my political beliefs and
activities. At least you might have thought me more fit for the draft than for ROTC.
Let me try to explain. As you know, I worked in a
very minor position on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. I did it for the experience
and the salary but also for the opportunity, however small, of working every day against a
war I opposed and despised with a depth of feeling I had reserved solely for racism in
America before Vietnam. I did not take the matter lightly but studied it carefully, and
there was a time when not many people had more information about Vietnam at hand than I
did.
I have written and spoken and marched against the
war. One of the national organizers of the Vietnam Moratorium is a close friend of mine.
After I left Arkansas last summer, I went to Washington to work in the national
headquarters of the Moratorium, then to England to organize the Americans here for
demonstrations October 15 and November 16.
Interlocked with the war is the draft issue, which I
did not begin to consider separately until early 1968. For a law seminar at Georgetown I
wrote a paper on the legal arguments for and against allowing, within the Selective
Service System, the classification of selective conscientious objection, for those opposed
to participation in a particular war, not simply to "participation in war in any
form."
From my work, I came to believe that the draft
system itself is illegitimate. No government really rooted in limited, parliamentary
democracy should have the power to make its citizens fight and kill and die in a war they
may oppose, a war which even possibly may be wrong, a war, which in any case, does not
involve immediately the peace and freedom of the nation. The draft was justified in World
War II because the life of the people collectively was at stake.
Individuals had to fight, if the nation was to
survive, for the lives of their country and their way of life. Vietnam is no such case.
Nor was Korea an example where, in my opinion, certain military action was justified but
the draft was not, for the reasons stated above.
Because of my opposition to the draft and the war, I
am in great sympathy with those who are not willing to fight, kill, and maybe die for
their country (i.e. the particular policy of a particular government) right or wrong. Two
of my friends at Oxford are conscientious objectors. I wrote a letter of recommendation
for one of them to his Mississippi draft board, a letter I am more proud of than anything
else I wrote at Oxford last year. One of my roommates is a draft resister who is possibly
under indictment and may never be able to go home again. He is one of the bravest, best
men I know. His country needs men like him more than they know. That he is considered a
criminal is an obscenity.
The decision not to be a resister and the related
subsequent decisions were the most difficult of my life. I decided to accept the draft in
spite of my beliefs for one reason only, to maintain my political viability within the
system. For years I have worked to prepare myself for a political life characterized by
both practical political ability and concern for rapid social progress. It is a life I
still feel compelled to try to lead. I do not think our system of government is by
definition corrupt, however dangerous and inadequate it has been in recent years. (The
society may be corrupt, but that is not the same thing, and if that is true we are all
finished anyway.)
When the draft came, despite political convictions,
I was having a hard time facing the prospect of fighting a war I had been fighting
against, and that is why I contacted you. ROTC was the one way in which I could possibly,
but not positively, avoid both Vietnam and the resistance. Going on with my education,
even coming back to England, played no part in my decision to join ROTC. I am back here,
and would have been at Arkansas Law School because there is nothing else I can do. I would
like to have been able to take a year out perhaps to teach in a small college or work on
some community action project and in the process to decide whether to attend law school or
graduate school and how to begin putting what I have learned to use.
But the particulars of my personal life are not near
as important to me as the principles involved. After I signed the ROTC letter of intent I
began to wonder whether the compromise I had made with myself was not more objectionable
than the draft would have been, because I had no interest in the ROTC program itself and
all I seem to have done was to protect myself from physical harm. Also, I had begun to
think that I had deceived you, not by lies--there were none--but by failing to tell you
all of the things I'm telling you now. I doubt I had the mental coherence to articulate
them then.
Page 2.
At that time, after we had made our agreement and
you had sent my 1D deferment to my draft board, the anguish and loss of my self regard and
self confidence really set in. I hardly slept for weeks and kept going by eating
compulsively and reading until exhaustion brought sleep. Finally, on September 12 I stayed
up all night writing a letter to the chairman of my draft board, saying basically what is
in the preceding paragraph, thanking him for trying to help in a case where he really
couldn't, and stating that I couldn't do the ROTC after all and would he please draft me
as soon as possible.
I never mailed the letter, but I did carry it with
me every day until I got on the plane to return to England. I didn't mail the letter
because I didn't see, in the end, how my going in the army and maybe going to Vietnam
would achieve anything except a feeling that I had punished myself and gotten what I
deserved. So I came back to England to try to make something of the second year of
my Rhodes scholarship.
And that is where I am now, writing to you because
you have been good to me and have a right to know what I think and feel. I am writing too
in the hope that my telling this one story will help you understand more clearly how so
many fine people have come to find themselves loving their country but loathing the
military, to which you and other good men have devoted years, lifetimes and the best
service you could give. To many of us, it is no longer clear what is service and what is
dis-service, or if it is clear, the conclusion is likely to be illegal.
Forgive the length of this letter. There was much to
say. There is still a lot to be
said, but it can wait. Please say hello to Colonel
Jones for me.
Merry Christmas.
Sincerely,
Bill Clinton
December 12, 1969
(approximately): Clinton visits Norway where he meets with
various "peace" organizations.
December 12 (approx.) - December 31, 1969: ???
Comment: After visiting Norway with Father McSorley,
Clinton's movements and activities are unknown until he arrives in Moscow on December 31, 1969. There are a lot of questions as to who
Clinton met and where he went during this time period.
December 31, 1969 - January 6, 1970: Clinton travels to Moscow. He later said "relations between our two
countries were pretty good then." He then described his visit as "a very
friendly time, a good atmosphere."
Despite Clinton's claim that January 1970 was
"a time of détente," relations between the United States and the Soviet Union
were anything but warm. The Soviets were supplying the North Vietnamese with advisors and
anti-aircraft weapons.
September 7, 1992:
Col. Eugene Holmes, USA Ret., signs a notarized statement in which he asserts that
"there is the imminent danger to our country of a draft dodger becoming
Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of the United States." He later writes that
"I believe that he (Clinton) purposefully deceived me, using the possibility of
joining the ROTC as a ploy to work with the draft board to delay his induction and get a
new draft reclassification."
Brief Background on Colonel Holmes
Colonel Eugene Holmes is a highly decorated officer
of the United States Army. He is a survivor of the Bataan Death March and three and a half
years as a POW of the Japanese. He served 32 years in the army before retiring with 100%
disability. His decorations include the Silver Star, 2 Bronze Stars, 2 Legions of Merit,
the Army Commendation Medal and many others.
During the Vietnam War, he personally inducted both
his sons into the service--one for 3 years as a regular army enlisted man, and the other
as a commissioned officer (after he had completed ROTC training).
Col. Homes Notarized
Statement
As Entered in Congressional Record
(Page: H5551) 7/30/93
September 7, 1992. Memorandum for Record:
Subject: Bill Clinton and the University of Arkansas ROTC Program:
There have been many unanswered questions as to the
circumstances surrounding Bill Clinton's involvement with the ROTC department at the
University of Arkansas. Prior to this time I have not felt the necessity for discussing
the details. The reason I have not done so before is that my poor physical health (a
consequence of participation in the Bataan Death March and the subsequent three and a half
years interment in Japanese POW camps) has precluded me from getting into what I felt was
unnecessary involvement. However, present polls show that there is the imminent danger to
our country of a draft dodger becoming Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of the
United States. While it is true, as Mr. Clinton has stated, that there were many others
who avoided serving their country in the Vietnam war, they are not aspiring to be the
President of the United States.
The tremendous implications of the possibility of
his becoming Commander-in-Chief of the United States Armed Forces compels me now to
comment on the facts concerning Mr. Clinton's evasion of the draft. This account would not
have been imperative had Bill Clinton been completely honest with the American public
concerning this matter. But as Mr. Clinton replied on a news conference this evening
(September 5, 1992) after being asked another particular about his dodging the draft,
"Almost everyone concerned with these incidents are dead. I have no more comments to
make". Since I may be the only person living who can give a first hand account of
what actually transpired, I am obligated by my love for my country and my sense of duty to
divulge what actually happened and make it a matter of record.
Bill Clinton came to see me at my home in 1969 to
discuss his desire to enroll in the ROTC program at the University of Arkansas. We engaged
in an extensive, approximately two (2) hour interview. At no time during this long
conversation about his desire to join the program did he inform me of his involvement,
participation and actually organizing protests against the United States involvement in
South East Asia. He was shrewd enough to realize that had I been aware of his activities,
he would not
have been accepted into the ROTC program as a potential officer in the United States Army.
The next day I began to receive phone calls
regarding Bill Clinton's draft status. I was informed by the draft board that it was of
interest to Senator Fullbright's office that Bill Clinton, a Rhodes Scholar, should be
admitted to the ROTC program. I received several such calls. The general message conveyed
by the draft board to me was that Senator Fullbright's office was putting pressure on them
and that they needed my help. I then made the necessary arrangements to enroll Mr. Clinton
into the ROTC
program at the University of Arkansas.
I was not "saving" him from serving his
country, as he erroneously thanked me for in his letter from England (dated December
3,1969). I was making it possible for a Rhodes Scholar to serve in the military as an
officer. In retrospect I see that Mr. Clinton had no intention of following through with
his agreement to join the Army ROTC program at the University of Arkansas or to attend the
University of Arkansas Law School. I had explained to him the necessity of enrolling at
the University of Arkansas as a student in order to be eligible to take the ROTC program
at the University. He never enrolled at the University of Arkansas, but instead enrolled
at Yale after attending Oxford. I believe that he purposely deceived me, using the
possibility of joining the
ROTC as a ploy to work with the draft board to delay his induction and get a new draft
classification.
The December 3rd letter written to me by Mr.
Clinton, and subsequently taken from the files by Lt. Col. Clint Jones, my executive
officer, was placed into the ROTC files so that a record would be available in case the
applicant should again petition to enter the ROTC program. The information in that letter
alone would have restricted Bill Clinton from ever qualifying to be an officer in the
United States Military. Even more significant was his lack of veracity in purposefully
defrauding the military by deceiving me, both in concealing his anti-military activities
overseas and his counterfeit intentions for later military service. These actions cause me
to question both his patriotism and his integrity. When I consider the caliber, the
bravery, and the patriotism of the fine young soldiers whose deaths I have witnessed, and
others whose funerals I have attended.... When I reflect on not only the willingness but
eagerness that so many of them displayed in their earnest desire to defend and serve their
country, it is untenable and incomprehensible to me that a man who was not merely
unwilling to serve his country, but actually protested against its military, should ever
be in the position of Commander-in-Chief of our armed Forces.
I write this declaration not only for the living and
future generations, but for those who fought and died for our country. If space and time
permitted I would include the names of the ones I knew and fought with, and along with
them I would mention my brother Bob, who was killed during World War II and is buried in
Cambridge, England (at the age of 23, about the age Bill Clinton was when he was over in
England protesting the war). I have agonized over whether or not to submit this statement
to the American people. But, I realize that even though I served my country by being in
the military for over 32 years, and having gone through the ordeal of months of combat
under the worst of conditions followed by years of imprisonment by the Japanese,it is not
enough. I'm writing these comments to let everyone know that I love my country more than I
do my own personal security and well-being. I will go to my grave loving these United
States of America and the liberty for which so many men have
fought and died. Because of my poor physical condition this will be my final statement. I
will make no further comments to any of the media regarding this issue.
Eugene Holmes
Colonel, U.S.A., Ret.
September 1992
Last year I read a book entitled "Year of the Rat" by
Edward Timperlake and William C. Triplett II. The book relates how Bill Clinton
compromised U.S. security for Chinese cash. After reading the book, I wondered if
Communist Agents might have contacted Bill Clinton while he was in England. If so,
has he worked with these people throughout his political career? The book showed
links to known or suspected Communist Chinese Agents from very early in his political
career in Arkansas.
Government agents, including United States, Russia and Communist
China are always looking for people to aid them in their cause. Part of an agent's
job is to find the individual's weaknesses. We all know that Bill Clinton has
at least two weaknesses, women and the quest for power. From my search
on the Internet, I believe that Bill Clinton was contacted by Communist agents and even
made a trip to Moscow during December 1969.
Like the old saying "if it looks like a duck, walks like a
duck and talks like a duck then it is a duck." I have drawn my own inferences
about Bill Clinton from the books I have read and the recent Internet search. I
suggest you do your own research and form your own opinion about Bill Clinton.
Remember Bill Clinton has lied under oath and has a nickname of "Slick
Willie". Anything he says should be looked at suspiciously until you can
prove it to be true. That's pretty good advice to apply anywhere including what you
read on the Internet. Take whatever information is available to you but hold your
judgment until you can prove to yourself the information is reliable.
As I have previously indicated, Bill Clinton went to the extreme
and used everything available to him to avoid the draft. During those War Years,
many college students used any means possible to stay out of the military. If
everyone put as much time and effort into serving their Country and doing their duty,
perhaps there would have been a different outcome. Too many people concentrated on
their personal well-being as individuals and not working for the good of our Country.